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Will his brother run a similar regime? Will the States drop the embargo after some talks? How will it change the way Americans view Cuban tobacco?
Hard to say. But I wanted to share a cool story about a little old Cuban lady that stopped by my store earlier this week.
A super lovely older Cuban lady stopped by the store this week. She started off with how seeing cigars sparked a memory of her father from her childhood in Cuba and how he always had one in his mouth.
Then she went on to tell me that supposedly Fidel is very ill... his brother will more than likely take control soon thereafter his death... and there may have already been some talk that he (the brother) initiated w/ the States that so far, resulted in nothing.
She also mentioned that due to Fidel's hunger for power and money he apparently did something to the sugar and cigar plantations and farms that had a long-term effect on the soil and the quality of the crops. Sadly the end results are not what they were about 20-some years ago. With all the crazy weather fluctuations over the past few years, with all the hurricanes and storms, the crops have suffered quite a bit and Fidel didn't prepare the country properly for the changes and tried to save money by NOT preparing. While he supposedly has millions in the reported bank accounts (there are several that are NOT reported) the country, the people, and the sugar and tobacco industries suffer.
Also, it was interesting to hear that with all her travels and living in the states for more than half her life she too has noticed that the type of Cuban that's emmigrating to the States is a completely different breed than what they were back in her day. Back in her day when she came with her family, they had to work hard, just like my parents and grandparents did when we emmigrated from Russia, to build from scratch and become who we are today. The type of Cubans coming now are the same as the larger portion of the Russian emmigres is this past decade, they are coming here with unreasonable expectations and to be served on a silver platter. I realize this has nothing to do w/ the embargo, just thought it was interesting that a country that is so poor in every aspect and a people that are so persecuted and oppressed are that unreasonable upon arriving to the land of the free. It would make more sense that they had NO expectations and built a life for themselves like our families did.
Another off-topic note... she mentioned that if ever in Cuba, possibly the BEST beach in the world to visit is "VARADERO BEACH".
Super cool lady, so glad I had a chance to meet her. I offered her a cigar, but she smiled, laughed, and said that her father would've liked one, but she'll graciously decline.
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Thu, February 22, 2007 - 7:37 PMNot a damn thing will change, besides as someone who has the chance to smoke some real cubans, I have come to realise it just the forbiden pleasure of smoking one, I have had many that are much better than cubans, Peace BLC
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Fri, March 2, 2007 - 7:45 PMwell the good cigar makers fled so they could continue their craft. And they took the seeds with them. The only real benefit a cuban made cigar is that soil that produced the great leaf.
Few years back under Clinton the option to renew or drop the embargo came up. The item was just pushed aside till later rather than try to address the issue.
Raul isn't that much younger than Fidel, so he'll only be in power for so long. I think its only a matter of time before the western influence starts a grassroots movement for democracy. Communism has pretty much been proven to be a failure.
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Thu, March 22, 2007 - 10:37 AMActually true communism has never been given a real try. All the countries who have said they are Communist have been ruled by dictators.
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Mon, May 21, 2007 - 6:33 PMThere are several questions to answer that would arise from Fidel dying. First and foremost would be the emargo, then immigration policies. It is doubtful that they would ever be drawn under our flag as another state 1) the loud 'anti-empire' leftists would have a field day with it, disallowing the possibility politically and 2) we cant even convince PR to voluntarily join our ranks, how can we expect to convince Cubans that they would be better off with us instead of trying it on their own?
As far as the embargo goes, the question becomes 'will the conservative super-patriots' be able to see past the history/tradition and see how rich and developed the island can be? Before Castro, the mobsters had turned Cuba into one of the premiere resort islands of its time, it still is for the Europeans to some degree. It can be again. Then we have to consider what some of the major tobacco players' decisions might be. How man and who will be tbuying up how many indigenous farms? IF no one does, then there are still serious implications. what happens to Altadis or General when the Cubans try legally releasing Montecristos or Cohibas. After all, our own appellate courts have decided that Altadis and General can legally use the names Montecristo and Cohiba to sell cigars, despite the fact that those names are internationally recognized as belonging to Cuban manufacturers. Legally, what happens then? Do the newly liberated Cubans sue Altadis and General? How does that affect the rest of their products? How about those Cuban families that emigrated to Honduras, Nicaragua and PR? Do THEY try to buy back their original farms and rtansfer operations back to Cuba? If they do, what about their current product that people love?
The point is, when Cuba is finally wrested free from Communist dictate, the cigar industry will be thrown upside down, no matter what happens. Ultimately, however, despite the certain chaos and anarchy, It will be for the better. We will see a whole new slew of blends showing up that include Cuban leaf and we will also, no doubt, see many many people realise that Cuabn Puros of this era, are good, but in many cases only as good as the hype..... -
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Tue, May 22, 2007 - 9:40 AM
You raise some great points and questions Ben. Don't know if you read the latest article in Cigar Afic. about what happens after Castro... but even THEY didn't raise any of the points you did.
Especially curious to see what will go down w/ all the original Cuban "cigar families" who've moved their operations to neighboring countries. Maybe they'll keep their plants and farms where they are now but buy up existing Cuban farms and grow fresh crop there as well and do what you said, cross-breed the leaves/tobacco. But you're probably right about the whole industry being turned upside down. All the retailers scurrying to get their hands on Cubans... it'll be a nightmare for a while.
But according to the article Fidel is feeling much better. I don't foresee change happening anytime soon. -
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Tue, May 22, 2007 - 9:48 AMYeah Fidel will be around for anoth 5-8 years Ill bet, tack on another 5-10 years after that for his brother pending his own geriatric health at the time. I try not to read CA unless Im not paying attention. Ive rarely read anything in a CA thats not pure fluff.. oh well -
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 6:16 PM
OK, he might not be officially dead yet, but still, it's a step in the right direction... let's hope!
www.nytimes.com/2008/02/20...castro.html
*rubbing hands together a-la-Mr. Burns style.... just a matter of time before that embargo is lifted and M.o.M.m.a. can sell the Cuban stogies. Mwuahahahhaaaa!!!!*
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Thu, February 21, 2008 - 7:43 AMand when the embargo is lifted? good quality cigars made by cuban cigar makers with good cuban seed already exist elsewhere. What we'll get is an influx of "cuban cigars" that'll be bought up by the people who don't know any better and the shallow folks who just want tell other people they're smoking a real cuban cigar.
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Re: What happens when Fidel dies?
Thu, February 21, 2008 - 10:49 AM
And that Tommaso, makes up 70% of my customers. Sad, but true.
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